Note: The Carmens have spread all around Australia since Jim Mason's success in winning the Hobart race with Cadence, also from Middle Harbour Yacht Club. The first 2 Carmens, Cadence and Cavelier were built side-by side by Ron Swanson at Dee Why. Camile was also built by Ron Swanson who sailed he most successfully, taking her to the Admiral's Cup and later competing in the Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race.